I understand your reasoning for your assumption that the creative direction for this video was aimed more towards visual appeal and mocking of the rumors of him.. But let it also be known that the greatest accomplishment of Lucifer was convincing the world that he does not exist. Thus, hiding in plain sight. Is the reaction that you have, the one that Jay-Z wants you to have anyway.. So that you will continue to allow these images into your mind that are factually linked to satanism, unconsciously….. or is he just a musical genius.. Decide for yourself. But just think about this.. How hard will you fight not to accept the truth that is in front of you… Im just sayin………

I am Corey (the guy who runs this site) and not Felipe the author of this post, sorry just wanted to clarify before I give my opinions on the matter.

I am with Felipe on this one, and personally I think the links of Jay-Z to Masonry are ridiculous. Also I don’t see the link to Satanism, in fact Masonry calls all members to have a belief in a higher power (whatever that may be) and the links to Satanism specifically are unfounded. People love to speculate about what they don’t know about and frequently it is drastically different then what is actually happening in reality.

Sorry maybe I’m overly rational, but prove to me he is a Mason, actually prove to me he is not only a Mason but a member of some bigger conspiracy and I will gladly reconsider (because Masons to me are just members of an organization with no sinister or conspiratorial purpose just like members of the VA, Knights of Columbus, Elk Lodge etc.). Until then though, I refuse to try to glean whatever info. I can from circumstantial evidence that people read way too much into.

@ jusSayin,

I have searched up videos that lay out the evidence in support of the theories and paid close attention to them. I feel that too many of the claims made are stretching the limits of certain implications made. As Corey said, it’s circumstantial evidence.

For example, the shot of the wide-eyed female basketball player supposedly is symbolic of the all-seeing eye. Come on, really? Tell me that’s not a stretch.

You can’t convict someone on circumstantial evidence in a court of law, and I feel that the same should apply to this situation.

Also, as Corey said, what’s so bad about Masonry? Let’s say, hypothetically, that Jay-Z was a Free Mason. Does that mean you’ll enjoy American Gangster, The Black Album, or any other of his albums any less?

if he is or isnt dont be fooled looking with a spiritual eye we dont know who is on an assignment for what these days. im not saying he is illuminati or he isnt but this isnt the type of stuff i want getting in my brain in my being

@tony

What kind of stuff are you talking about specifically?

Just curious because I didn’t find anything in the video that I felt uncomfortable viewing but I am more than willing to discuss the issue and try to learn where people are coming from.

The video itself was just the push that got me looking into the other rumors…why would he have me do that? There are many ex-Jay-Z fans this week…fans with every single album he’s made, collabos and guest appearances as well. Fans that can quote his lines just the same as Rakim or Big Daddy Kane. Being the businessman and the intelligent guy that he obviously is, why would he make such a move. There are connections to the occult with Jay-Z that can’t be explained away. The blantant imagery in this video just lent credibility to a possibility of which I want no part. The subconscious (secular)/spirit is a big ball of clay…a magnet for anything in its vicinity. What the hell is he trying to put in there? Why did he find it comfortable to let me know…now? What part of the game is this?

@Roy

If you are saying being a freemason is like being in a cult then I disagree with that statement. Freemasonry is like a boys club to me, not a religion.

First off, I’m Darren Hanible. Imma huge supporter of this site. I must say that this is a subject where one must be well educated on.

To begin you have to be open minded on both sides. This is a dope video. Visually intriguing and intentionally meant to have that “subliminal” vibe. The rumors of Jay-Z’s ties to the occult, the Illuminati, and Freemasonry have been going on for quite a while now. From one side of it, this is one hell of a marketing strategy for Jay-Z. He draws millions of people daily with these signs. Its pretty amazing to see how quickly people look to celebrities to cast the stone.

My other side opposes this though. There comes a place where you draw the line between coincidence, and facts. Now as Felipe stated, somethings in this video are a stretch, like the girl and the all seeing eye, and the Baphomets in the ink blot, but there are some things that are definitely blatant. The pouring of the liquid over the skulls left eye. The Baphomets worn, and one of the most griping things in my opinion, the picture of Jesus on the crucifix with bullets on either side.

People are being a bit extreme though. Here is where we maybe should just look at his moral standings, and not try to tie him to the Illuminati (which has been dead since the 18th century), Satanism, or Masonry(In which you must believe in a heavenly higher power.) Also, the Masons are a group that I hope to be a part of one day. The help the community, and are like a large fraternity. Now we can say that higher in the ranks things get crazy, but we dont know for a fact so we can’t accuse. Until then I say we stay neutral. Keep our eyes open, watch, and be educated. Don’t be so ignorant to either side that you become an extremist.

Thats about all I have to say on this matter.

@ Corey

“If you are saying being a freemason is like being in a cult then I disagree with that statement. Freemasonry is like a boys club to me, not a religion.”

I’m saying that the On To the Next One video is Jay-Z taking my eyes and ears to a place that I don’t want to go, and that I’ve made a choice to not support him any longer. I was actually one of few that thought the song was one of the best on the BP3 album. The “Monster of the Double Entendre” let me know that those entendres can be coming from anywhere. I’ve pushed the boundaries of my own belief systems and like to think of myself as a critical thinker. But if I now have reason to believe that there is this trail of coded lyrics and imagery delivered to me subliminally for who knows how long, then I don’t think i’ve been thought of as highly. I take it a bit personal.

@Roy

For the sake of the argument, let’s assume that Jay-Z is actually affiliated with one of the discussed religious cults.

It’s a bit ridiculous to refuse to watch something or listen to someone’s music because you’re concerned about it influencing you. In the end, it’s up to you how you’re influenced by the message you perceive.

I have several friends that are major metal-heads, and they enjoy listening to controversial subgenres such as death metal. I can tell you with absolute certainty that none of them have been negatively influenced by the songs’ messages, even if some of these messages are blatantly anti-religious, pro-anarchist, nihilist, etc. This is because they are intelligent and independent individuals who can appreciate what’s being expressed through art without having to worry about always being negatively influenced.

You can’t go cowering into a hole out of a fear of subliminal messages. If you choose to believe that Jay is trying to hint at something with this music video, then that is your choice. Just remember that any negative influence that might come from this video will ultimately have to pass by your judgment. If you have a strong sense of judgment, then there’s no reason you should stop listening to a musician you like.

@Felipe

Then we disagree in theory completely on this one. Music has the ability to alter your mood and it’s a lot more than just by tempo and arrangement of notes. Many other things can be and arranged for presentation just the same (i.e. images). I’ve always known that. I’m just talking purely in secular terms; my spiritual side interprets that an entirely different way that I dont need to beat anyone over the head with. You don’t believe that there’s truth in a song having the ability to inspire aggression, sadness, hopeliness, happiness, etc.? How could you limit such a quality and not include subliminal images and verbal messages as well? I happen to believe that what you probably know as hypnotism, a tapping into the subconscious, is real. Jay-Z appears to be rooted enough in somethings spiritual that I don’t place a high value upon. Just the questionable overt lyrics alone I’ve explained away as artistic expression for long enough (Jesus can’t save you, life starts when THE church ends). I listen to all types of music, I’m not just talking about a rethinking limited to Jay-Z.

woah I never said music can’t affect you. I just said it’s up to you how it affects you. It’s virtually impossible to not be touched by music. But we’re not talking about feelings and sentiments – we’re talking about implicit messages and undertones in lyrics and (in this case) visuals.

Don’t get me wrong, Roy, I appreciate what you’re saying and I respect the fact that you’re willing to debate your views versus mine. I just feel that the implications being made are (for the most part) being stretched too far. Just look at the comments. We started by discussing whether or not Jay-Z could be a Freemason (which, as stated numerous times, is an honorable organization) to discussing whether or not Jay-Z holds satanic or anti-christian beliefs. Somewhere along the way, a line has to be drawn.

Maybe you’re right about Jay’s intentions. Who knows. But when I compare Jay-Z to other musicians and bands I listen to such as Gorillaz and Arcade Fire, the intentions in his music just don’t seem that sinister to me.

(ugh internet froze so now i have to write my response all over again lol)

I never said music can’t evoke emotions or alter moods. It’s virtually impossible to not be touched by music. What we’re talking about here though is not whether music can alter emotions, but implicit messages and subtext in lyrics and (in this case) visuals.

Don’t get me wrong, Roy, I appreciate where you’re coming from with this and the arguments you’re making. I just feel that what is being implied from this music video has been stretched too far. Just look at the comments. We started out by discussing whether or not Jay-Z is a Freemason (which, as stated multiple times, is an honorable organization) to whether or not he has Satanic or anti-Christian views. Somewhere along the way a line has to be drawn.

Maybe you’re right about Jay-Z’s intentions. Who knows. All I’m saying is that when I compare Jay to other acts I listen to such as Gorillaz or Arcade Fire, he just seems like another artist who uses religious controversy to his advantage. But again, who knows.

Ignore the first comment of the two I just posted. My interent was being a bitch.

“I just feel that what is being implied from this music video has been stretched too far.”

Such was the risk or calculation when it was created. This guy is far too smart to not to have anticipated such an interpretation, reaction, and loss of fans…which begs the most basic question of all. “Why…?”

I’m in the educated 30-something crowd whose mindset has been when the few artists in Hip Hop that I can still relate to and find entertaining are gone, so am I. I’m sure tapping into a new audience was partially the motive as well.

Man You conspiracy/religious nuts are mad retarded. Now admittedly I love conspiracies and read all about them in my spare time but about 99% of them are false.

1st off the whole Illuminati thing is hilarious because you guys talk about it as if the Illminati are registered organization when the truth is that the Illuminati was a secret society in Bavaria in the late 18th century. They had a political agenda that included republicanism and abolition of monarchies, which they tried to institute by means of subterfuge, secrecy, and conspiracy, including the infiltration of other organizations. They fancied themselves to be “enlightened” but they had little success and were destroyed within fifteen years of their origin. END OF STORY. Any of you show me one bit of concrete evidence and I’ll take it back but you can’t.

2nd the idiot that started all of this mess with the Jay-Z Deception series in the first place (Forerunner777) is a seventh day adventist so if you’re going to take info from this guy seriously then you should take all of your nice clothes, dvds, non jesus related books and burn them because that’s where this guy’s head is at on a calm day.

3rd and final. Not a single solid fact that Jay-Zis a satanist has EVER been presented and all the lyrical “clues” have been severe misinterpretations which only go to show that you nuts hear what you want because that real reason this is even an issue is because Jay-Z is a rapper that swears and used to sell drugs and as Judgment christians who don’t care enough to try and listen to the lyrics they just cry foul because they no kids look up to him. And seeing as the congreeional hearing to censor the music didn’t work we have to try and demnize it now. Kind of like 47 years ago when a certain band said they were “bigger than jesus” all of a sudden the “i wanna hold your hand guys” are satanists. years from now we’ll all be laughing at the retard fundamentalists that made these retarded claims.

And Corey and Felipe… It’s obvious Jay made this as a catalyst for more talking the problem is every so often religious/conspiracy nuts need a new thing to be scared off.

You guys wants some videos to watch about this watch this guy ColinRayko’s video series “The REAL Jay-Z Deception” he single handedly picks apart all of these stupid claims. Of course since he is telling the truth which is neveras exciting as conspiracy no one cares.

Anyways sorry for rambling but this is getting out of hand.

Man You conspiracy/religious nuts are mad retarded.

@Nick
Not sure if that was just a general statement, but I personally never put a label on whatever it is that Jay-Z’s doing. All I ever said was that I can no longer relate for spiritual reasons. There’s nothing wrong with that. If I need to track down other videos to counter what other videos said just to ease some vibes that I don’t appreciate from a sudden shift in the direction of an artist’s work, then my problem is with the artist. The conspiracies and the defense to the conspiracies cancel themselves out.

@ Roy

The conspiraies about Jay and the defenses to them don’t cancel themselves out because like most conspiracies, the defense contains facts while the conspiracies contain farfetched and completely circumstantial claims.

The problem is that no one who read up ont he conspiracy cares about the facts because they’re religious/conspiracy nuts and are therefore trained to take the most appealing story to them and run with it despite all contradictory evidence. Because the evidence is all there.

Like thisfor instance

These videos aren’t a sudden switch for Jay-Z’s remember about the 11 years ago you had the “Nigga What” video and it was complete nonsense with explosions and psychadelic backgrounds. makes no sense but no one card then because at the same time everybody was on the artsy crap (busta, luda, even janet jackson) Jay-Z doesn’t direct these videos. every artist has “weird for the sake of weird videos.” It’s like a fad the problem is now that weird for the sake of weird is in again Jay-Z just happens to be much more popular so now for people who do’ knwo much about Jay-Z it’s a sudden change.

I brought those videos up because of the fact that the only reason people have these “unsettling feelings about this whole Jay-Z occult thing is because they saw a video on youtube. Seeing as videos on youtube qualify as viable sources of info I might as well talk about the other side of the matter.

And to be honest when you step out and look at why why you are “unable to relate” it’s a video that’s less than 5 minutes long that really only means anything if you want it to. Did you quit watching wrestling because the wrestler Kane has satanic backstory… No. It is entertainment use your brain.

All of the evidence overwhelmingly points to all these theories being a complete sack of bullshit. I just can’t believe people are actually this stupid.

@Nick

Well you can go ahead and be the number one fan! That’s your choice. I budget my energy a little bit wiser than trying to figure out something I don’t having any investment in and therefore answers I can live without because an artist decided he wanted to be at the center of controversy. Make no mistake this was calculated; people aren’t grasping for straws with this crap…it’s been fed to them. So, who are you mad to. That’s where Jay-Z wanted to take it, that’s his choice as well. I’m no longer entertained. What’s so hard to understand about that?

By the way, I stopped watching wrestling when I was 12 years old when I could care less about a backstory on a character as long as the good guys won. We’re not talking about good guy/bad guy drama and characters. Part of my identity at this stage of my life is shaped by what I surround myself with and immerse myself in. This no longer fits FOR ME.

I think my opinion’s been laid out well enough. To each his own.

@Roy

Why is it that I you defend someone now a days you’re a number one fan. Jay-Z isn’t my favorite artist or even my favorite rapper. All I’m saying is all of these claimes are stupid and anybody who cares enough to be offended by the conspiracies should care enought to do research on the matter and when you do the research the answers are all there and their remarkably uninteresting. Just because you don’t understand it doesn’t mean its wrong. If it doesn’t fit find out why don’t just say well that’s weird because that’s just ignorant.

You’re right it was calculated… To make money and keep buzz going on an ablum that by all means would have been forgotten if it wasn’t for these idiotic theories.

“All I’m saying is all of these claimes are stupid and anybody who cares enough to be offended by the conspiracies should care enought to do research on the matter….”

The crap that popped on YouTube when you went looking for a Jay-Z video I definitely dismissed as stupid for the longest…haven’t given it the time to validate still. I didn’t go looking for it; I wasn’t offended by it. What I ultimately didn’t appreciate was the content of Jay-Z’s latest video. So now to suggest that I have some expectation to do research in order to be justified in having one of the reactions that Jay-Z was hoping for is flawed.

You’re right it is if infact you know the exact reasons why you don’t appreciate the video and given the fact that all of the faux-symbolism is pretty much indecipherable I’m willing to bank on the you don’t in which case you either:

A. Do some research find all of these videos that say a bunch of crap and put two and two together to realize a publicity stunt when you see one or…

B. Just say “I don’t like it for reasons I don’t know.” and be happy in your ignorance.

Again this videos is one of many hip hop videos to go uber artsy and at best say nothing. It has nothing to do with the song and frankly nothing to do with the occult. (oooooh a bull skull and crucifix)

Half of the imagery that people see as satanic weren’t even considered that until the Church of Satan was established in the 60’s.

I’m sorry but if something troubles me I don’t just push it away and hope to never see it again. I actually like to have as much of a grasp on reality as possible.

But if that’s where you’re at in you’re life best of luck with that.

“faux-symbolism”

I think this says it all. What is “faux-symbolism”? It’s either symbolic or it’s not. I don’t care if you tweak this or tweak that so that you can argue that it isn’t what it was meant to portray or imply. So one minute your argument is that it’s only a 5-minute video, and the next minute you are telling me that I need to educate myself on the baphomet, masonary symbolism, so that I can be informed. I choose to remain “ignorant”; 5-minutes was all I agreed to give.

Faux-symbolism is when someone throw out a bunch of vague images in a way that makes them seem meaningful when turhtfully they mean nothing. It’s a pretty fairly simple notion.

My argument is still that it is a silly video but if you claim to be affected by it to the point to where you no longer listen to an artist that I’m assuming you liked at first then I suggest that you educated yourself on the number of factors that lead to the video. Now that might include the many things you listed but you don’t have to look up all of those things just look all of the things they’ve been saying about Jay-Z and then see this video it’s pretty obvious.

I only reccomend you look stuff because the video affected you that much. I could personally give two shits because it’s a freaking video. If 5 minutes is all you need to make a decision on somebody that you’ve probably listened to for years then that’s on you.

The fact that I do own every single Jay-Z CD is precisely the reason for the change of heart. I know Jay-Z is a smart guy and that this is a part of some form of plan. With the seriousness of the symbology that he chose to invoke, I’m not foolish enough to assume that plan is only about business based on my own personal beliefs absent any conspiracy stuff about Masons or whatever; only Jay-Z knows the meaning and intent of invoking the imagery in that video.

I consider the effect of the video on me to be positive. I’ll still enjoy music, but with a different awareness. Will I burn all of my Jay-Z CDs tomorrow? Probably not, but they won’t come back out until I come to another spiritual place…they may never come back out. I call it growth. Never thought I’d see the day.

Pouting and locking away you Jay-ZCDs because of one video is not growth. Even if Jay-Z was trying to invoke negative imagery that doesn’t take away the countless other songs he’s written and videos he’s done. Frankly that’s beyond petty.

Speaking of negative imagery which unless you’re religious I don’t see how you could even come to that conclusion. I would suggest you look up your symbols because flaming basket basketballs, diamond skulls, the joker, and makeup wearing wearing goths have nothing to do with satan.

And don’t get it twisted…If an artist comes to strong with such symbology that’s even aligned with my spiritual beliefs I tend to move away from that. DMX, Kanye have made entire songs on those subjects…hot songs too. I’m not looking towards these individuals as an influence on my spiritual outlook. If I was, the other 99% of their content would have disqualified them. Individual spirituality is serious personal business, and I’m prepared to defend or at least rationalize my personal choices. So, you could say it’s partially a thing of mixing business with pleasure. If you take it to the other end of the spectrum to those things that don’t align with people’s beliefs when you are attempting to mix that business with pleasure, this backlash is what you’re gonna get. Like I said, this was calculated, including the loss of me as a fan.

What imagery are you even talking about? What are put of by the joker? The horse and skull with paint thrown on it? the split second crucifix? the bull skull? the goth kid with lipstick? The Drummer? flaming basketballs? Black birds? None of it makes sense to me but if it does to you please let me know how? And specifically no more of this philisophicall bull you keep saying when I reach a point you can’t contest.

“And specifically no more of this philisophicall bull you keep saying when I reach a point you can’t contest.”

Exactly what uncontested “points” are you under the illusion that you are making other than that you have a pigheaded opinion? It’s your opinion. It’s an unwinnable subject argument. It’s your opinion based on the fact that none of that stuff had any personal meaning to you. The scenes have been analyzed enough frame by frame; feel free to find someone else willing to discuss it with you. You’ve formulated your position, go bump it! I don’t care what YOU find entertaining.

Well thanks for admitting you can’t explain it. I can be I’m relgious but I research relgious imagery and conversly satanic imagery and there is none.

Love that once again to work around my my question. But here are th points I made that are uncontested because I unlike you can be specific:

A. The Images in the video do not have a single religiously negative statement to them. That is a FACT and if you knew anything about the religious imagery and history behind the symbols you’d know that.

B. Putting away over a decaded worth of music because of one video is petty by any means. Petty meaning that a video Jay-Z made in 2009 has little to nothing to do with his albums up until them. That is also a fact.

C. The act of basing once opinion on a situation that you h

… internet messed up.

C. The act of forming one’s opinion on a situation without any background information is ignorance.

Like I said when you missed the point of my asking you what “faux symbolism” really mean.

A. Taken as a whole there was intent to imply certain undertones when the work was created. So talking about specifics of comparison in the images invoked and implied is essentially irrelevant.

B. Like I said, will I burn my Jay-Z CDs – No. Do I feel inspired to listen to Jay-Z anytime soon. No. Will I feel inspired to listen to Jay-Z in the future. I can’t answer that.

C. My opinion is based on the shoes that I’ve walked in as are yours.

Yes there was an intent and it was to getot to mention retards who actually think Jay-Z is into the occult to keep talking about him because the album sales and itunes listening the new audience Jay-Z has picked up because of it in the conspiracy and religous nuts who will stupidly buy his music on some level to pick it apart.

That’s why the it’s faux symbolism because it’s there to look as if it means something but in actuality it means nothing.

My opinion is based of facts and research.

Your opinion is based on fear and religion. Even as a religious person myself that’s just stupid.

“Yes there was an intent and it was to getot to mention retards who actually think Jay-Z is into the occult to keep talking about him because the album sales and itunes listening the new audience Jay-Z has picked up because of it in the conspiracy and religous nuts who will stupidly buy his music on some level to pick it apart.”

That whole arguing with fools Jay-Z line comes to mind here…if you think you’re a non-retard in this scheme you envision, think again.

“That’s why the it’s faux symbolism because it’s there to look as if it means something but in actuality it means nothing.”

You just don’t get it. If someone calls you a “stepid niger” or gives you the wrong finger, it’s harmless because it’s faux symbology?

“My opinion is based of facts and research.”

Not my place to tell you different.

“Your opinion is based on fear and religion. ”

Yet another worthless opinion.

Believe what you will…and after all this time, your opinion is worth no more than mine.

Actually ithe sole fact that I can cite a source and you can’t already makes it better.

And you should prolly check if I’m black before say things like that.

The mere fact that you don’t understand faux-symbolism.

Explain to me how I’m the one who’s blind here since it’s so obvious. I bought his album because I like Jay-Z but if Jay-Z says Hey all my fans should stop going to church. I’ll tell him to piss off.

Jay-Z is a rapper other than his lyrics I don’t care what he has to say so if he is trying to brainwash me or whatever it’s not working. ?Guess he’s not that smart huh? And I’m more than sure that the majority of his fans would agree with me.

But please give me your specific reason of why I’m the sheep in this whole thing yet you someone who once again can’t even specifically point out what it is he doesn’t like about the video is “enlightened.”

“Actually ithe sole fact that I can cite a source and you can’t already makes it better.”

Or the fact that my whole point was that I don’t care to do research based on some need to accomodate something I can do without. Noone cares. If you like it, buy it. If you don’t like it, don’t buy it.

“And you should prolly check if I’m black before say things like that.”

Things like what? It was faux symbolism.

“Explain to me how I’m the one who’s blind here since it’s so obvious.”

Of course it is. Intentions are always obvious and transparent aren’t they?

“Jay-Z is a rapper other than his lyrics I don’t care what he has to say so if he is trying to brainwash me or whatever it’s not working. ?Guess he’s not that smart huh? And I’m more than sure that the majority of his fans would agree with me.”

Wow! LOL!

“But please give me your specific reason of why I’m the sheep in this whole thing yet you someone who once again can’t even specifically point out what it is he doesn’t like about the video is “enlightened.”

Well basically anytime a person feverishly defends the intentions of others, it kinda leaves no doubt…. I never said a thing about enlightenment. I said the apparent direction of an artist doesn’t fit into where I want to go. I choose those subjects about which I want to be enlightened.

For the record, I wasn’t calling you a sheep. Your previous point was about marketing schemes and retards vs. non-retards discussing controversy. The age old line that Jay-Z used about not arguing with fools because people from a distance can’t tell who is who, and my comment about counting yourself amongst the non-retards is what I was referring to.

Well that’s of the point of a debate. To defend your point.

My point is Jay-Z is trying to make a buck and your point is you don’t like the video.

You still didn’t explain what you don’t like. And obviously don’t get the point of referenceing seeing as my post are right above yours yet you feel you need to highlight my quotes people can read and I doubt the will this far.

Also way to paraphase my “Jay-Z is a rapper…” quote and editing it to make it sound completely different dispite the fact that the real is right ontop of you. That shows how sane your perception is these days.

You said your self you don’t care enough to look up the reason for your change of heart with Jay-Z, yet you care enough to stop listening to Jay-Z. That somes up your hipocrasy pretty well.

I’m still waiting the specifics that you didn’t like from the video and why…

No I never said that I know Jay-Z and the day Jay-Z comes out and says he’s a mason or whatever I’ll believe it. But the facts and verifiable evidence point to the thought that Jay-Z is first and formemost a businessman and it’s far more likely again given the conrete evidence that this is a publicity stunt.

“My point is Jay-Z is trying to make a buck and your point is you don’t like the video.”

Your point is based on assumption. You are defending intentions.

“You still didn’t explain what you don’t like.”

Were you sleeping?

“Also way to paraphase my “Jay-Z is a rapper…” quote and editing it to make it sound completely different dispite the fact that the real is right ontop of you. That shows how sane your perception is these days.”

Yeah, I’d want to dis-own some of those words too. But, dude how do you call cut-and-paste paraphrasing? It’s still there; you can scroll up and take another look if you like.

“You said your self you don’t care enough to look up the reason for your change of heart with Jay-Z, yet you care enough to stop listening to Jay-Z. That somes up your hipocrasy pretty well.”

I don’t owe Jay-Z any kind of courtesy of looking into the meaning behind his symbology…that would kinda make it an indoctrination wouldn’t it? Our business relationship was fulfilled when I paid money for the music, no other strings attached. Not hipocrasy, a functioning brain.

“I’m still waiting the specifics that you didn’t like from the video and why…”

Try not to lose too much sleep dude.

Alright the Cards won, the game is over, this is my time now. Have a good one.